Showing posts with label Leslie Moore. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Leslie Moore. Show all posts

Friday, June 5, 2009

B-17 'Sentimental Journey' Walkaround, June 5, 2009


This photo was taken by my friend Roger Gottlob as the 'Sentimental Journey' flew over his house in Ammon, Idaho a few days ago. I had no photos of my own of the plane in flight, so I was very happy to get this one. Rog also took the photos below on June 7. The bottom photo shows his grandson.

My photos follow.


The Sentimental Journey arrived in Idaho Falls this morning. Of course I went to see it. Here are my pictures. This is one of the very few flying B-17s left in the world. One is struck by just how tight and cramped it is inside. Imagine flying at 25,000 feet, at fifty below zero, on oxygen, with bulky flying clothes, on the bomb run, while watching flak burst around you and fighting off German fighters. Can't do it? Me, neither. God, I admire those men that flew the heavies. I'm proud to know them.




.50 cal. waist gun





Looking aft from top turret gunner's position.






Majestic bird. Tail gunner position.





Top turret visible in front of tail.




Radio Operator's Compartment




Navigator's Table




Navigator's position (L) and Bombardier's position (C) in nose.





"Leonard's Office", also "Maurice's Office". Two dear friends who risked it all over Europe so we could be free.




Bombardier's position, chin turret, pilot and copilot position above.







Bob Cozen's office (pilot's position) Not to mention all the other great pilots I've known, like Gale House, Dewayne Bennett, Lefty Nairn, Grif Mumford, Bob Morgan, Lyle Shafer, James Geary and too many more to mention....




Gimbel for ball turret (at bottom). Where my dear friend Bob Capen rode out his missions, as well as Les Poitras's grandpa Leslie Moore.





Lovely lines...





Ball turret gimbel, from waist position, looking foreward through bomb bay towards flight deck.







Cockpit. "Fighters, twelve o'clock high!!"




Sunday, April 19, 2009

What was it Like in the Ball Turret?


This is from my friend Les, whose grandpa was a ball turret gunner in the 95th:

"For my grandfather:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvuChgh4fGg


…that is without the E/A and flak!

-Les"

Saturday, January 19, 2008

Grandson of a Ball Turret Gunner Shares Some of His Grandfather's Diary



Hello Readers of Rob's blog honoring World War Two Airmen. My name is Les Poitras and my grandfather was a ball-turret gunner with the 100th Bomb Group, 8th Air Force in WWII. Rob has graciously allowed me to share information occasionally on his blog, which I deeply appreciate.

I discovered Rob's book: "Untold Valor" on Amazon about a year ago, not long after my grandfather passed away after a long battle with Alzheimer's. I have long been proud of my grandfather's service and once I discovered that Rob's book had a chapter dedicated to ball-turret gunners, I immediately purchased his book to learn more about what my grandfather's experience must have been like. I believe that ball-turret gunners, as well as all Air Men of WWII are amongst the bravest of the brave in history, not only for having been required to fight for their country, but having to do so in the air from largely experimental aircraft at high altitudes. A large number of people, myself included, aren't even crazy about flying to begin with. As if the thought of flying itself isn't challenging enough for many of us, it can seem almost impossible to comprehend fighting a shooting war in aircraft at such high altitudes. That is what these incredibly brave men (even though they were mere boys at the time) were called on to do. They did it bravely and triumphantly and, in my opinion, played a massive role in saving the free world from fascism. They are underappreciated. Our debt to these men is unpayable, but they will all tell you: "we were just doing our job". I'm happy that many of them are still around and have been able to offer my mere "thank you" in person, as if that were ever enough.

Because of my admiration for his history, which he was aware of, my grandfather left with me a number of his treasures, including his A-2 Jacket (which you might have seen in one of Rob's earlier postings) his medals and diary. I am deeply proud of these items and I thought I would start my first blog entry by sharing a few bits from his diary.

My grandfather arrived in Prestwick, Scotland just two days after D-Day on June 8, 1944 at the ripe old age of 23. He flew 33 missions, the first one on June 29th, 1944 and the last on Nov 2nd, 1944. As apparently is the case with many ball-turret gunners, the writing in his diary was terse. He typically jotted down only the date, the target, bomb load and intensity/accuracy of flak. In several entries, however, he would add something additional. Here is the front cover of my grandfather's WWII diary:



You might notice on the bottom right of the cover the name: "G. Winkler". George Winkler was the waist gunner on the same crew as my grandfather and must have, at some point, torn out the pages of his diary and given the book to my grandfather to write in, as evidenced by the inside cover:



It turns out that George Winkler later became Major George Winkler USAF Ret. and is now buried at Arlington National Cemetery next to his wife, Martha. (If anyone has any information about or photos of George Winkler, please contact me through Rob).

The currency in the photo above was something my grandfather saved called a "short snorter", which was various currency taped together and signed by various crew. More on that in a future blog entry.

The next photo of the first page is the crew listing of the crew my grandfather belonged to. Needless to say, these guys depended on each other more than any of us who weren't there will ever know.


The photo on the left was taken of my grandfather, shortly after he received his Air Medal on July 29th, 1944. The same photo, his mission list (taken from his diary) and some photos of his other crew members can be found on the 100th bomb group website:

http://www.100thbg.com/mainpages/crews/crews4/darby.htm

One of the crew, Bill Bates, is 86 years young, alive and well and I just had a lengthy phone conversation with him tonight. He is the last surviving member of the Dale L. Darby crew.

Finally, I decided to print the text here of the newspaper article written By Ernie Pyle, that my grandfather attached to his 9th mission over St. Lo. The article is very poignant in that it tells the perspective of a witness of the heavy bombers from the ground, something only a select few in history have experienced and the vast majority will never know. My grandfather wrote: "Mission IX" at the top of the article and taped it to that mission entry, so he must have either participated in that mission or one like it. Here is the photo of that mission entry with article attached:


Here is the text of the article:


Straight From the Front By Ernie Pyle


Normandy – Our front lines were marked by long stripes of colored cloth laid on the ground, and with colored smoke to guide our airmen during the mass bombing that preceded our breakout from the German ring that held us to the Normandy beachhead. The dive-bombers hit just right. We stood in the barnyard of a French farm and watched them barrel nearly straight down out of the sky. They were bombing about half a mile ahead of where we stood. They came in groups, diving from every direction perfectly timed, one right after another. Everywhere you looked separate groups of planes were on the way down or on the way back up slanting over for fire or circling, circling, circling over our heads waiting for their turn. The air was full of sharp and distinct sounds of cracking bombs and heavy rips of the planes’ machine guns and splitting screams of diving wings. And then a new sound gradually droned into our ears. The sound was deep and all encompassing with no notes in it – just a gigantic faraway surge of doom. It was the heavies. They came from directly behind us and first they were the merest dots in the sky. You could see clots of them against the far heavens, too tiny to count individually. They came on with terrible slowness. They came in flights of 12 – three flights to a group. And in the groups stretched out across the sky they came in “families” of about 70 planes each.

Constant Stream

Maybe these gigantic waves were two miles apart, maybe they were ten miles. I don’t know, but I do know they came in constant procession and I thought it would never end. What the Germans must have thought is beyond comprehension. Their march across the sky was slow and steady. I’ve never known a storm or a machine or any resolve of man that had about it the aura of such ghastly relentlessness. You have the feeling that even had God appeared beseechingly before them in the sky with palms outwards to persuade them back they would not have had within the the power to turn from their irresistible course. I stood with a little group of men ranging from the colonels to privates back of some farmhouse. Slit trenches were all around the edges of the farmyard and a dugout with a tin roof was near by, but we were so fascinated by the spectacle overhead that it never occurred to us that we might need foxholes. The first huge flight passed directly over our farmyard and the others followed. We spread our feet and leaned far back trying to look straight up until our steel helmets fell off. We’d cup our fingers around our eyes like field glasses for a clearer view and then the bombs came. They began ahead of us as a crackle of popcorn and almost instantly swelled into a monstrous fury of noise that seemed surely to destroy all the world ahead of us. From then on for an hour and a half that had in it the agonies of centuries the bombs came down. A wall of smoke and dust erected by them grew high in the sky. It filtered along the ground back through our own orchards, it sifted around us and into our noses. The bright day grew slowly dark from it. By now everything was an indescribably cauldron of sounds. Individual noises did not exist. The thundering of motors in the sky and the roar of the bombs ahead filled all the space for noise on earth. Our own heavy artillery was crashing all around us, yet we could hardly hear it.


Ack-Ack Dots Sky


The Germans began to shoot heavy, high ack-ack. Great black puffs of it by the score speckled the sky until it was hard to distinguish the smoke puffs from the planes. And then someone shouted that one of the planes was smoking. Yes we could all see it. A long faint line of black smoke stretched straight for a mile behind one of them and as we watched there was a gigantic sweep of flame over the plane from nose to tail. It disappeared in flame and it slanted slowly down and banked around the sky in great wide curves, this way and that way, as rhythmically and gracefully as in a slow-motion waltz. Then suddenly it seemed to change its mind and it swept upward steeper and steeper, and ever slower until finally it seemed poised motionless on its own black pillar of smoke. And then just as slowly it turned over and dived for the earth – a folded spearheand on the straight black shaft of its own creation – and it disappeared behind the treetops. But before it was done there were more cries of “There’s another one smoking, and there’s a third one now!” Chutes came out of some of the planes, out of some came no chutes at all. One of white silk, caught on the tail of a plane. The men with binoculars could see him fighting to get loose until flames swept over him and then a tiny black dot fell through space all alone. And all that time the great flat ceiling of the sky was roofed by all the others that didn’t go down, plowing their way forward as if there were no turmoil in the world. Nothing deviated them by the slightest. They stalked on slowly and with the dreadful pall of sound as though they were seeing only something at a great distance and nothing existed in between.


(now back to my post)

Finally, here's a picture of my grandfather's POW photos, which most American and German Air Men would probably get a chuckle out of as all American air men in these photos seemed to be wearing the same (or similar) jacket and tie (or so I've heard):




Thank you for reading. Thanks for letting me post, Rob! As you can tell, I'm very proud of my grandfather for his bravery!

--Les Poitras

Saturday, August 25, 2007

Ball Turret Gunners---- A Breed Apart




This is from my personal collection. It's an ad from a magazine during World War Two advertising Nash-Kelvinator and their role in the manufacturing of ball turrets. This is my favorite shot of the ball turret.

The ball turret gunners were a breed apart. Suspended in their pot-metal cacoon on the underside of the B-17 and B-24 bomber, these men had to deal with three of man's main fears---heights, enclosed spaces, and death---while at the same time defending their ship from intense enemy attack.


An Army Air Corps schematic of the Sperry Ball Turret.


I have been impressed by these men since I first interviewed two of them for my book. Frank Coleman and Bob Capen were both ball turret gunners in the 95th Bomb Group. I spent hours interviewing Frank and Bob sent me several hours of taped memories. These became the basis of my chapter 'Ball Turret Gunner' in my book, Untold Valor.


The caption on this photo says this is a gunner from the 95th. However, he looks a lot like Clifford Puckett, the ball turret gunner on 390th Bomb Group's 'Betty Boop/Pistol Packin' Mama' and I'm willing to bet it is.


By necessity small in stature, these men were long on courage. When I met Frank and his wife in Salt Lake some years back, I was impressed with how much his experience had impacted him as a human being. He still suffered from hours at fifty below zero, curled up in the ball turret of a B-17, often unable even to relieve himself for hours at a time. Frank anguished about the people the bombers killed on the ground in Germany. A strong Mormon, he came home from every mission, and the first thing he did was go to a nearby farm where he could be alone and pray. He would ask God's forgiveness for what he'd had to do, knowing at the same time that somebody had to do it to keep facism at bay.



The American poet Randall Jarrell wrote a sobering poem about ball turret gunners. Here it is:



The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner


From my mother's sleep I fell into the State,

And I hunched in its belly till my wet fur froze.

Six miles from earth, loosed from its dream of life,

I woke to black flak and the nightmare fighters.

When I died they washed me out of the turret with a hose.


No glamor here, just sudden death and the end of dreams for one young gunner.



The following is from the Commemorative Air Force website:


"Flying Fortress crew members considered the ball turret the worst crew position on the aircraft. The confining sphere fastened to the underside of the aircraft required an agile occupant immune to claustrophobia and brave enough to be without a parachute close by.
The turret revolved a full 360 degrees, providing an extraordinary vantage point and covering the aircraft against attackers from below. Ironically, thought of as being the most dangerous position in a B-17, it turned out to be one of the safest-as far as suffering battle wounds. The gunner, curled up in the ball in a fetal position with his back against the armor plated door, had less of his body exposed to enemy fire than the other crew members.

The turret was stowed with the guns facing rearward for takeoff and landing. Once the aircraft was airborne, the turret would have to be cranked by hand to position the guns straight down, revolving the hatch inside the airplane. The ball gunner would then enter the turret, fasten his safety strap, turn on the power and operate the turret from inside.
The ball turret gunner would be hunched, legs bent, with his feet in stirrups on each side of the 13 inch diameter armored glass panel. His face was about 30 inches from this panel, and suspended in between was the optical display of the computing gunsight. A pedal under his left foot adjusted the red sight on this display and when a target framed within, the range was correct. While sighting, he would be looking directly between his knees. Two handles projected rearward above the sight and controlled movement of the turret. At the end of each handle was the firing button for both guns."


Finally, I salute my friend Les Poitras's grandpa, Leslie Moore, who also served as a ball turret gunner in the 100th Bomb Group.


Lest we ever forget the sacrifices of these brave men.


If you'd like to read a website by one of these true heroes, I recommend Andy Anzanos' website at this location: http://www.andyanzanos.com/. And while you're at it, order Andy's SIGNED biography about his experiences as a ball turret gunner in the 390th Bomb Group. Check it out. You will not be disappointed!

390th Ball Turret gunner Andy Anzanos holds a copy of his book about his experiences. You can order it, signed and inscribed by this living legend, at the address above.

Friday, June 29, 2007

Leslie Moore--63 Years Ago Today

Leslie Moore, Ball Turret Gunner, 100th Bomb Group

Sixty-three years ago today, 100th Bomb Group ball turret gunner Leslie Moore flew his first mission, to Bohlen, Germany. In his diary, Leslie noted:

"Mission I

Target: Bohlen, Germany
Date: June 29th, 1944
Flak: Moderate - Accurate
Bomb Load: 20-250 lbs."

For the most part, he was very terse in his diary although he always described the target, date, flak and bomb load. Sometimes he would write comments like: "my birthday: one of the worst days we had".

Young Leslie Moore was only 23 when this photo was taken (old by the standards of enlisted airmen). The photo was taken about halfway through his tour. This is grandson Les Poitras' favorite photo of his grandfather, who passed away not long ago.


Looking at the photo, Les writes: "I wonder if the piece of skin on his neck is from the cold air while in the ball turret. I never had the chance to ask him, as I did not find this photo until AFTER he passed away."

Thursday, June 28, 2007

A Proud Grandson Keeps the Memories Alive


I have been very blessed to make the acquaintance of a gentleman by the name of Les Poitras. Les's grandpa, Leslie B. Moore, was a ball turret gunner in the 100th Bomb Group in World War Two, and Les has been rediscovering the stories of the war years in the past few years. Les is like my twin brother in some ways--neither one of us can get enough of the air war history or talking to the veterans who were there. We read all the books we can find, talk to all the vets that we can catch up to, and write about our findings to each other and to anyone who will listen. Les has volunteered at the 100th BG website as a webmaster and has a good message board going over there. You can check it out by clicking on this link: http://100thbg.com/fubar/index.php?sid=435a3548f408c9d0c6316ab4b21dad3f


I am thankful for guys like Les Poitras, because his passion and his love of air war history ensures that the stories will stay alive.


Les sent this photo taken yesterday of himself with his grandpa's A-2 jacket. Les writes that he treasures this jacket, given to him by his grandpa, and that all these artifacts will end up in a museum if anything happens to him.


Les, you honor your grandfather's memory. He'd be mighty proud of you.


Keep 'em flying!