Showing posts with label P-38 Lightning. Show all posts
Showing posts with label P-38 Lightning. Show all posts

Saturday, November 17, 2007

Sad Postscript to P-38 story


Fellow WWII aviation historian Marilyn Walton forwarded a message from her WWII aviation sleuth friend Ed in Belgium. According to Ed, the pilot of this aircraft was killed a little over a year after landing on the beach in Wales, while on a mission in North Africa.

Ed writes:

"Seems to be P-38F-1-LO Serial 41-7677 of 14th Fighter Group/49th Fighter Squadron. Had departed from nearby Llanbedr airfield on a training flight September 27, 1942 and ditched into the sea at Harlech due to mechanical problems. Aircraft partially salvaged at the time. Pilot Lt Robert Fred ELLIOTT (O-394428) from Rich Square, North Carolina. He died on a mission December 5, 1942 in Tunisia and is memorialized at the North Africa American Cemetery in Carthage, Tunisia.

Regards, Ed in Belgium"

Also, a good video of the P-38 'Glacier Girl' on its first flight after being refurbishing can be viewed by clicking on this link: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2031955095201944515&q=p-38&total=1064&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

Thursday, November 15, 2007

P-38 Found on Welsh Beach after 65 Years

Aerial view of the P-38 recently discovered off a Welsh beach after 65 years of being buried in the sand.

NEW YORK - Sixty-five years after an American P-38 fighter plane ran out of gas and crash-landed on a beach in Wales, the long-forgotten World War II relic has emerged from the surf and sand where it lay buried.

Beach strollers, sunbathers and swimmers often frolicked within a few yards of the aircraft, unaware of its existence until last summer, when unusual weather caused the sand to shift and erode.

The revelation of the Lockheed "Lightning" fighter, with its distinctive twin-boom design, has stirred interest in British aviation circles and among officials of the country's aircraft museums, ready to reclaim another artifact from history's greatest armed conflict.

Based on its serial number and other records, "the fighter is arguably the oldest P-38 in existence, and the oldest surviving 8th Air Force combat aircraft of any type," said Ric Gillespie, who heads a U.S.-based nonprofit group dedicated to preserving historic aircraft. "In that respect it's a major find, of exceptional interest to British and American aviation historians."
Gillespie finds romance as well as historic significance in the discovery of the aircraft, long forgotten by the U.S. government.

"It's sort of like `Brigadoon,' the mythical Scottish village that appears and disappears," he said. "Although the Welsh aren't too happy about that analogy — they have some famous legends of their own."

Gillespie's organization, the International Group for Historic Aircraft Recovery, learned of the plane's existence in September from a British air history enthusiast and sent a team to survey the site last month. The group plans to collaborate with British museum experts in recovering the fragile but nearly intact aircraft next spring.

The Imperial War Museum Duxford and the Royal Air Force Museum are among the institutions expressing interest.

"The difficult part is to keep such a dramatic discovery secret. Looting of historic wrecks, aircraft or ships, is a major problem, in Britain as it is worldwide," Gillespie said.

British aviation publications have been circumspect about disclosing the exact location, and local Welsh authorities have agreed to keep the plane under surveillance whenever it is exposed by the tides of the Irish Sea, he said. For now, the aircraft is again buried under sand.

Officially, the U.S. Air Force considers any aircraft lost before Nov. 19, 1961 — when a fire destroyed many records — as "formally abandoned," and has an interest in such cases only if human remains are involved.

The twin-engine P-38, a radical design conceived by Lockheed design genius Clarence "Kelly" Johnson in the late 1930s, became one of the war's most successful fighter planes, serving in Europe and the Pacific. About 10,000 of the planes were built, and about 32 complete or partial airframes are believed to still exist, perhaps 10 in flying condition.

Another P-38, part of a "lost squadron" of warplanes marooned by bad weather in Greenland while being flown to Europe in 1942, was recovered and extensively restored with new parts. Dubbed "Glacier Girl," its attempt to complete the flight to Britain earlier this year was thwarted by mechanical problems.

The Wales Lightning, built in 1941, reached Britain in early 1942 and flew combat missions along the Dutch-Belgian coast.

Second Lt. Robert F. "Fred" Elliott, 24, of Rich Square, N.C., was on a gunnery practice mission on Sept. 27, 1942, when a fuel supply error forced him to make an emergency landing on the nearest suitable place — the Welsh beach.


His belly landing in shallow water sheared off a wingtip, but Elliott escaped unhurt. Less than three months later, the veteran of more than 10 combat missions was shot down over Tunisia, in North Africa. His plane and body were never found.

As the disabled P-38 could not be flown off the beach, "American officers had the guns removed, and the records say the aircraft was salvaged, but it wasn't," Gillespie said. "It was gradually covered with sand, and there it sat for 65 years. With censorship in force and British beaches closed to the public during the war, nobody knew it was there."

It was first spotted by a family enjoying a day at the beach on July 31.

The discovery was stunning news for Robert Elliott, 64, of Blountville, Tenn., the pilot's nephew and only surviving relative. He has spent nearly 30 years trying to learn more about his namesake's career and death.

All he knew of the Wales incident was a one-line entry saying Elliott had "ditched a P-38 and was uninjured."

"So this is just a monumental discovery, and a very emotional thing," said Elliott, an engineering consultant. He said he hopes to be present for the recovery.

Tuesday, August 7, 2007

WWII Aircraft: View from the Cockpit

Ever wondered what the cockpits of the great fighters and bombers of WWII looked like? Today, the blog takes you on a tour of some of the European air war's most famous aircraft.
Enjoy!

P-38 Lightning fighter (USA)

Hawker Hurricane Fighter (British)


Spitfire Fighter (British)

P-51 Mustang fighter (USA)
P-47 Thunderbolt Fighter (USA)

Fw-190 fighter (German)

Lancaster bomber (British)


B-24 Liberator bomber (USA)

Me-109 (German fighter)

B-17 Flying Fortress Cockpit, heavily modifed with up-to-date avionics. (USA)



I had to throw this one in for sentimental reasons. This is the cockpit of the Cessna 150. I learned how to fly in this plane in 1978. It has about as much in common with the other planes as a Volkswagen Bug has with a Formula racing car.

Wednesday, August 1, 2007

Buzzing the Field---Forbidden but Fun

Flying so low that the belly of your aircraft clipped the grass or scratched the runway was a big no-no in the U.S. Army Air Corps, but that didn't stop pilots from doing it. It was customary to do so after finishing 25 missions. This low-level stunt was known as "buzzing the field".


A B-17 buzzes the field in this photo from the war years.
Have you ever wondered what it would like like from the vantage-point of the pilot buzzzing the field? This shot was taken from an P-38 aerial recon plane as the pilot swooped down towards the hangar at center. Note the crouching man on the ground in the middle of the concrete.

The most famous field-buzzing ever is found in the 1962 film "The War Lover", based on the novel of the same name by John Hersey. My late friend Gus Mencow swore to me that Hersey visited the base at the 390th and was intrigued by Gus's pilot, James Geary. Gus believed that Hersey modeled the war-loving pilot in the book after Geary.


In any case, Steve McQueen played the role of Captain Buzz Rickson (an apt first name, eh?) and Robert Wagner played his co-pilot. The Columbia film company searched high and low and found three flyable B-17s, which they purchased and fixed up for the filming.

Stunt pilot John Crewdson, who'd already done tricky stunt flying for the British show 633 Squadron, agreed to help with the flying in the film. Crewdson had gotten his start as a glider pilot in the British Army, also spending time in the RAF. Crewdson flew the huge B-17 solo across the field, only a few feet above the ground, as shown in the photo below.
Crewdson went on to be the stunt flyer in James Bond movies in the sixties, and was killed in 1982 while filming a helicopter stunt for another film.



Stunt pilot John Crewdson buzzes the British field at Bovington for the 1961 movie 'The War Lover' . Crewdson reportedly flew the airplane solo for the sequence.

For more on 'The War Lover', go to this link: http://www.aerovintage.com/warlover.htm